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	<title>Comments on: Virtual Seminar on Some Unpublished Inscriptions from Corinth VII</title>
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		<title>By: PaulIversen</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-6500</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulIversen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mika,

Thank you for the citation - your article is helpful indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mika,</p>
<p>Thank you for the citation - your article is helpful indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mika Kajava</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-6053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mika Kajava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the inscription Corinth 8,3 153, and the question of the reorganization of the Isthmian games, I thought it might be of some use to have a look at my paper in CPh 97, 2002, 168-178.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the inscription Corinth 8,3 153, and the question of the reorganization of the Isthmian games, I thought it might be of some use to have a look at my paper in CPh 97, 2002, 168-178.</p>
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		<title>By: A. D'Hautcourt</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-5463</link>
		<dc:creator>A. D'Hautcourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, 
I find very interesting your idea to connect the transport of an inscription to the reorganization of the Isthmian games.
Apparently the discussion you mentioned in comment 2 turns around the inscription Corinth 8,3 153, particularly for its dating around l. 1:
[L(ucio) Castricio]
[․ f(ilio) {²tribu}² Regulo],
[aedili, praef(ecto) i(ure) d(icundo), II]vir(o) eṭ [IIvir(o)]
[quinquennal(i)], ạgonothete Tiḅ-
5 [ereon Caesar]eon Sebasteon et
[agonothete I]sthmion et Caesar-
[eon, qui Isthm]ia ad Isthmum egit
[primus sub cura]m Col(oniae) Laud(is) Iul(iae) Cor(inthensis),
[carmina ad Iulia]m diva[m Au]g(ustam) virgi-
10 [numque certame]n insṭịṭụịṭ [e]t omnib-
[us aedificiis Cae]sareon novatis co-
[— — — — — — —]ṭo peregit epulumq(ue)
[omnibus co]lonis dedit.
[fil(ius) L(uci) Castri]c̣ius Reg̣ụlus
15 [pat]ri
[d(ecreto)]  d(ecurionum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
I find very interesting your idea to connect the transport of an inscription to the reorganization of the Isthmian games.<br />
Apparently the discussion you mentioned in comment 2 turns around the inscription Corinth 8,3 153, particularly for its dating around l. 1:<br />
[L(ucio) Castricio]<br />
[․ f(ilio) {²tribu}² Regulo],<br />
[aedili, praef(ecto) i(ure) d(icundo), II]vir(o) eṭ [IIvir(o)]<br />
[quinquennal(i)], ạgonothete Tiḅ-<br />
5 [ereon Caesar]eon Sebasteon et<br />
[agonothete I]sthmion et Caesar-<br />
[eon, qui Isthm]ia ad Isthmum egit<br />
[primus sub cura]m Col(oniae) Laud(is) Iul(iae) Cor(inthensis),<br />
[carmina ad Iulia]m diva[m Au]g(ustam) virgi-<br />
10 [numque certame]n insṭịṭụịṭ [e]t omnib-<br />
[us aedificiis Cae]sareon novatis co-<br />
[— — — — — — —]ṭo peregit epulumq(ue)<br />
[omnibus co]lonis dedit.<br />
[fil(ius) L(uci) Castri]c̣ius Reg̣ụlus<br />
15 [pat]ri<br />
[d(ecreto)]  d(ecurionum).</p>
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		<title>By: Current Epigraphy &#187; Virtual Seminar on Some Unpublished Inscriptions from Corinth VIII</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-5443</link>
		<dc:creator>Current Epigraphy &#187; Virtual Seminar on Some Unpublished Inscriptions from Corinth VIII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is post VIII on our &#8220;Virtual Seminar on Some Unpublished Inscriptions from Corinth.&#8221; The seven previous posts may be found by following the links from here. This installment features three joining fragments of a finely prepared revetment of white marble with slightly tan accretions on the face. Fragments A (top left) and B (bottom) were found 13 April, 1935 in Area 1 of the Agora Southeast in a wall. They were later rediscovered on 7 April, 1938 in Agora South Central. Fragment C (top right) was found 9 July, 1976 in West Road Trench IV of Temple Hill. Photo, squeeze, and autopsy of joined stones. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is post VIII on our &#8220;Virtual Seminar on Some Unpublished Inscriptions from Corinth.&#8221; The seven previous posts may be found by following the links from here. This installment features three joining fragments of a finely prepared revetment of white marble with slightly tan accretions on the face. Fragments A (top left) and B (bottom) were found 13 April, 1935 in Area 1 of the Agora Southeast in a wall. They were later rediscovered on 7 April, 1938 in Agora South Central. Fragment C (top right) was found 9 July, 1976 in West Road Trench IV of Temple Hill. Photo, squeeze, and autopsy of joined stones. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PaulIversen</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-5399</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulIversen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see for &lt;em&gt;IG&lt;/em&gt; VII 2413/2414 there's been quite a bit of discussion and disagreement for the date and a much better text by Roesch et alii:

See here:  http://www.escholarship.org/editions/view?docId=ft1x0nb0dk&#38;doc.view=content&#38;chunk.id=d0e26300&#38;toc.depth=1&#38;anchor.id=0&#38;brand=eschol

Obviously this inscription doesn't involve the Technitai of the Isthmos and Nemea, and if Kallet-Marx's spacing is correct, Poplios Kornelios is a few letters too long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see for <em>IG</em> VII 2413/2414 there&#8217;s been quite a bit of discussion and disagreement for the date and a much better text by Roesch et alii:</p>
<p>See here:  <a href="http://www.escholarship.org/editions/view?docId=ft1x0nb0dk&amp;doc.view=content&amp;chunk.id=d0e26300&amp;toc.depth=1&amp;anchor.id=0&amp;brand=eschol" rel="nofollow">http://www.escholarship.org/editions/view?docId=ft1&#215;0nb0dk&amp;doc.view=content&amp;chunk.id=d0e26300&amp;toc.depth=1&amp;anchor.id=0&amp;brand=eschol</a></p>
<p>Obviously this inscription doesn&#8217;t involve the Technitai of the Isthmos and Nemea, and if Kallet-Marx&#8217;s spacing is correct, Poplios Kornelios is a few letters too long.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulIversen</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-5396</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulIversen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Alexis,

I've got Le Guen on my list of books/articles to look at, for which there is a &lt;em&gt;BMCR&lt;/em&gt; review here: http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/2002/2002-07-16.html   I won't have access to it for a couple weeks, so it will have to wait until then.  

As for how it made its way to Korinth, I don't know.   Gebhard and Dickie (&lt;em&gt;Corinth&lt;/em&gt; XX 261-78, which I haven't seen yet either = &lt;em&gt;SEG&lt;/em&gt; 51.339) have examined the activity at Korinth and the Isthmian sanctuary of Poseidon between 146 and 44 BC, and they included Fragment A in their discussion (which apparently means they also dated it later than Kent did).  I'm hoping they can shed some light on your question.  The only thing I can say at the moment is that neither the Isthmus nor Sikyon are that far from Korinth, so it could have been transported from either site at some point, possibly when the responsibility for organizing the Isthmian games was transferred back to Korinth.  

I should also mention here that I've just run across another extremely interesting inscription that will have a bearing on the discussion: &lt;a href="http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D145905%26bookid%3D13%26region%3D3%26subregion%3D6" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;IG&lt;/em&gt; VII 2414&lt;/a&gt; / &lt;a href="http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D145904%26bookid%3D13%26region%3D3%26subregion%3D6" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;em&gt;IG&lt;/em&gt; VII 2413&lt;/a&gt; (I believe the two have been associated).   This inscription is interesting because it was found at Thebes, which apparently was the base of operations for the Athenian Technitai, and of course it appears that it comes from a Roman consul (στρατηγὸς ὕπατος Ῥωμαί[ων]).  Obviously I'm going to have to do some digging on this and see what others have said, but Sisenna was never a consul, and Lentulus was consul in 130.  I think this inscription may be Lentulus' ruling.  If so, then it appears he made a ruling on the Technitai of Thebes while consul in 130, not praetor in 128, and if our inscription from Korinth relates to this affair, then we may want to restore [στρατηγὸν ὕπατο]ν Ῥωμαίων at the end of line 2 and beginning of line 3 and date it to 130 along with &lt;em&gt;Syll&lt;/em&gt;. (3) 704B).  As it just so happens, I was thinking that it should be dated to 130 anyway, because line 21 of &lt;em&gt;FD&lt;/em&gt; III,2 70 talks of the first meeting to discuss the issue as being ἐπὶ Ποπ[λίου Κορν]ηλίο[υ], which when I first read I thought must refer to his consulship.  In fact when I first wrote up the post I wrote 130 BC?, chose [ὕπατο]ν as my first restoration,  but then I read Pickard-Cambridge (who follows Daux), and they  placed it in his praetorship, so I thought it safer for the moment to follow Daux/Pickard-Cambridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Alexis,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got Le Guen on my list of books/articles to look at, for which there is a <em>BMCR</em> review here: <a href="http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/2002/2002-07-16.html" rel="nofollow">http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/bmcr/2002/2002-07-16.html</a>   I won&#8217;t have access to it for a couple weeks, so it will have to wait until then.  </p>
<p>As for how it made its way to Korinth, I don&#8217;t know.   Gebhard and Dickie (<em>Corinth</em> XX 261-78, which I haven&#8217;t seen yet either = <em>SEG</em> 51.339) have examined the activity at Korinth and the Isthmian sanctuary of Poseidon between 146 and 44 BC, and they included Fragment A in their discussion (which apparently means they also dated it later than Kent did).  I&#8217;m hoping they can shed some light on your question.  The only thing I can say at the moment is that neither the Isthmus nor Sikyon are that far from Korinth, so it could have been transported from either site at some point, possibly when the responsibility for organizing the Isthmian games was transferred back to Korinth.  </p>
<p>I should also mention here that I&#8217;ve just run across another extremely interesting inscription that will have a bearing on the discussion: <a href="http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D145905%26bookid%3D13%26region%3D3%26subregion%3D6" rel="nofollow"><em>IG</em> VII 2414</a> / <a href="http://epigraphy.packhum.org/inscriptions/main?url=oi%3Fikey%3D145904%26bookid%3D13%26region%3D3%26subregion%3D6" rel="nofollow"><em>IG</em> VII 2413</a> (I believe the two have been associated).   This inscription is interesting because it was found at Thebes, which apparently was the base of operations for the Athenian Technitai, and of course it appears that it comes from a Roman consul (στρατηγὸς ὕπατος Ῥωμαί[ων]).  Obviously I&#8217;m going to have to do some digging on this and see what others have said, but Sisenna was never a consul, and Lentulus was consul in 130.  I think this inscription may be Lentulus&#8217; ruling.  If so, then it appears he made a ruling on the Technitai of Thebes while consul in 130, not praetor in 128, and if our inscription from Korinth relates to this affair, then we may want to restore [στρατηγὸν ὕπατο]ν Ῥωμαίων at the end of line 2 and beginning of line 3 and date it to 130 along with <em>Syll</em>. (3) 704B).  As it just so happens, I was thinking that it should be dated to 130 anyway, because line 21 of <em>FD</em> III,2 70 talks of the first meeting to discuss the issue as being ἐπὶ Ποπ[λίου Κορν]ηλίο[υ], which when I first read I thought must refer to his consulship.  In fact when I first wrote up the post I wrote 130 BC?, chose [ὕπατο]ν as my first restoration,  but then I read Pickard-Cambridge (who follows Daux), and they  placed it in his praetorship, so I thought it safer for the moment to follow Daux/Pickard-Cambridge.</p>
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		<title>By: A. D'Hautcourt</title>
		<link>http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/07/31/virtual-seminar-on-some-unpublished-inscriptions-from-corinth-vii/#comment-5395</link>
		<dc:creator>A. D'Hautcourt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Paul for showing us another interesting document.
Is Brigitte Le Guen, Les associations de Technites dionysiaques à l'époque hellénistique (Nancy, 2001) any help ?

Do you have any idea how this inscription made its way to Corinth, if it refers to the dispute of 134-112 BC ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Paul for showing us another interesting document.<br />
Is Brigitte Le Guen, Les associations de Technites dionysiaques à l&#8217;époque hellénistique (Nancy, 2001) any help ?</p>
<p>Do you have any idea how this inscription made its way to Corinth, if it refers to the dispute of 134-112 BC ?</p>
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