Comments on: A new (controversial) inscribed cup from Alexandria http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/ ISSN 1754-0909 (Online) Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:23:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7197 Tom Elliott Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:42:42 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7197 Hi Ramiro. Thanks for the clarification. Yesterday afternoon I added both your blog (re)post and the original El Mundo article to the <a href="http://www.bibsonomy.org/user/paregorios/alexandria-cup" rel="nofollow">running bibliography</a>. Hi Ramiro. Thanks for the clarification. Yesterday afternoon I added both your blog (re)post and the original El Mundo article to the running bibliography.

]]> By: Ramiro http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7189 Ramiro Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:47:27 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7189 Hello everyone, I am Ramiro, publisher of the blog www.historiaclasica.com. The post Chuck Jones is citing in comment #9 is an article from the Spanish newspaper elMundo.es stating that this cup might be the first written evidence of Christ's existence, and promoting some exhibition in Madrid. By no means does it imply that I agree with the correctness of such news. Hello everyone,

I am Ramiro, publisher of the blog http://www.historiaclasica.com. The post Chuck Jones is citing in comment #9 is an article from the Spanish newspaper elMundo.es stating that this cup might be the first written evidence of Christ’s existence, and promoting some exhibition in Madrid. By no means does it imply that I agree with the correctness of such news.

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7168 Tom Elliott Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:41:03 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7168 The <a href="http://www.historiaclasica.com/2008/09/hallada-en-alejandra-una-vasija-con.html" rel="nofollow">Historica Classica piece</a> Chuck points to glosses <a href="http://elmundo.es/elmundo/2008/09/17/ciencia/1221645751.html" rel="nofollow">a piece at ElMundo.es</a>, whence the new photo and some more tid-bits concerning stratigraphy etc. I've added both, plus yet another papy-l subject line, to <a href="http://www.bibsonomy.org/user/paregorios/alexandria-cup" title="Stories and comments on the 'Jesus Cup' from Alexandria" rel="nofollow">the rolling bibliography</a>. The Historica Classica piece Chuck points to glosses a piece at ElMundo.es, whence the new photo and some more tid-bits concerning stratigraphy etc. I’ve added both, plus yet another papy-l subject line, to the rolling bibliography.

]]> By: Chuck Jones http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7167 Chuck Jones Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:17:51 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7167 And now see Goddio holding the cup at http://www.historiaclasica.com/2008/09/hallada-en-alejandra-una-vasija-con.html And now see Goddio holding the cup at
http://www.historiaclasica.com/2008/09/hallada-en-alejandra-una-vasija-con.html

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7162 Tom Elliott Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:08:43 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7162 I shall attempt to maintain, at least for a while, a running (bibli|web)ography of news and comment on this possibly fake inscribed cup at <a href="http://www.bibsonomy.org/user/paregorios/alexandria-cup" rel="nofollow">http://www.bibsonomy.org/user/paregorios/alexandria-cup</a> , all the while hoping in vain that the media will stop using the bogus "holy grail" angle. I shall attempt to maintain, at least for a while, a running (bibli|web)ography of news and comment on this possibly fake inscribed cup at http://www.bibsonomy.org/user/paregorios/alexandria-cup , all the while hoping in vain that the media will stop using the bogus “holy grail” angle.

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7158 Tom Elliott Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:51:39 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7158 The buzz is starting to spread about this item. Here's <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=thy&as_q=+&as_epq=&as_oq=%CE%9F%CE%93%CE%9F%CE%99%CE%A3%CE%A4%CE%91%CE%99%CE%A3+OGOISTAIS&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images" rel="nofollow">a google search for OGOISTAIS or ΟΓΟΙΣΤΑΙΣ</a>, which should turn up most relevant posts. The buzz is starting to spread about this item. Here’s a google search for OGOISTAIS or ΟΓΟΙΣΤΑΙΣ, which should turn up most relevant posts.

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7154 Tom Elliott Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:12:39 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7154 Wieland Wilker has been successful in getting an image of the back side of the cup, which displays the second part of the inscription (OGOISTAIS). He's posted it, along with quotes from some of the on-going list discussions and emails on his <a href="http://www.iphpbb3.com/forum/64774768nx21631/other-interesting-matters-f22/mysterious-crestou-inscription-t82.html" rel="nofollow">Mysterious Crestou Inscription page</a> (note: pop-up advertisement there). Wieland Wilker has been successful in getting an image of the back side of the cup, which displays the second part of the inscription (OGOISTAIS). He’s posted it, along with quotes from some of the on-going list discussions and emails on his Mysterious Crestou Inscription page (note: pop-up advertisement there).

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7153 Tom Elliott Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:09:52 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7153 I've posted <a xhref="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Inscriptiones-l/message/477" title="query: the new inscribed cup from Alexandria" rel="nofollow">a general inquiry to the inscriptiones-l list</a>, asking if any subscribers have additional first-hand information about this item. I've also written to <a xhref="http://www.underwaterdiscovery.org/Sitemap/Homepage/AboutUs/ForThePress.aspx" rel="nofollow">the PR firm that manages press inquiries for Goddio</a>, but have not had a response. I’ve posted a general inquiry to the inscriptiones-l list, asking if any subscribers have additional first-hand information about this item. I’ve also written to the PR firm that manages press inquiries for Goddio, but have not had a response.

]]> By: david meadows http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7126 david meadows Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:35:52 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7126 definitely a strange one ... add to the 'lack of mention' list the fact that this doesn't appear to be known to any other news source (despite being out for a couple of days); not even in other German sources. very, very, slow for this sort of thing. antonio lombatti is definitely right to suggest we need photos of the rest of the inscription and is probably right that it's a fake (but how recent?) ... it's odd that there don't seem to be any other photos of this available. it's also odd that Goddio himself actually doesn't seem to say anything about the find ... did he actually find it? or was it some member of his team? let's also hope that the story about searching for 'the gold of the aztecs' off the coast of Cuba isn't covering for him actually looking for the remains of 'atlantis' which assorted Canadians of Russian descent were pursuing a while back (but ran out of money) ... i wonder if FG is pals with Simcha Jacobovici ... definitely a strange one … add to the ‘lack of mention’ list the fact that this doesn’t appear to be known to any other news source (despite being out for a couple of days); not even in other German sources. very, very, slow for this sort of thing. antonio lombatti is definitely right to suggest we need photos of the rest of the inscription and is probably right that it’s a fake (but how recent?) … it’s odd that there don’t seem to be any other photos of this available. it’s also odd that Goddio himself actually doesn’t seem to say anything about the find … did he actually find it? or was it some member of his team? let’s also hope that the story about searching for ‘the gold of the aztecs’ off the coast of Cuba isn’t covering for him actually looking for the remains of ‘atlantis’ which assorted Canadians of Russian descent were pursuing a while back (but ran out of money) … i wonder if FG is pals with Simcha Jacobovici …

]]> By: Tom Elliott http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7113 Tom Elliott Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:46:27 +0000 http://www.currentepigraphy.org/2008/09/17/a-new-controversial-inscribed-cup-from-alexandria/#comment-7113 The terse <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.underwaterdiscovery.org/Sitemap/Project/ProjectArticel.aspx?ProjectName=Alexandria&Layout=B&XmlDocument=0014.xml" rel="nofollow">Mission Report 2008</a> at the Goddio website makes no mention of this item. The Madrid exhibition in question is presumably <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.tesoros-sumergidos-egipto.es/l/26/Exposicion.aspx" rel="nofollow">Tesoros Sumergidos de Egipto</a> (at the Matadero de Legazpi, now extended through 15 November 2008). I could find no mention of this item on the exhibition site either. The terse Mission Report 2008 at the Goddio website makes no mention of this item. The Madrid exhibition in question is presumably Tesoros Sumergidos de Egipto (at the Matadero de Legazpi, now extended through 15 November 2008). I could find no mention of this item on the exhibition site either.

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